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February 23, 2007
Deconstructing the Tara Lynn Grant Case
A potential “Spouse Murrrder Theater” has occurred in Washington Township, Michigan. Tara Lynn Grant, a 34-year old working mother of two, disappeared on February 9, allegedly after getting into a “dark sedan” at the end of her driveway after an argument with her husband, Stephen. Tara worked for a company with headquarters in Idaho in a position that took her to Puerto Rico five days a week.
When analyzing the “facts” about this case, let’s keep in mind that all the information we have came from either Stephen Grant (the prime suspect) or the media; neither of which is a reliable source. We have no evidence when Tara left her house, if there was a “dark sedan,” or phone records showing calls made from her home or cell phone at the time of her reported departure.
We also have no evidence that Tara had the type of cold-blooded personality to let her family suffer, let her husband take the rap, plan her own disappearance, set aside the money, create a new identity, and conspire with someone to assist in such a complex maneuver.
Considering all the possibilities, including that Tara has willingly disappeared to escape from her life or punish her husband (a la Jennifer Wilbanks), that her husband killed her for yet unrevealed motives, or that she was murdered by a stranger (disgruntled employee, serial killer, satanic cult member), let’s deconstruct this case.
Stephen Grant claims she made a call to someone just before she left. Grant claims she has “gone black” on him before, given him the “deep freeze”, which is why he didn’t report her missing for five days.
According to Tara’s mother, Grant told her Tara was “missing”. Did he say that word, or did she interpret it as “missing”, or did the press insert that word? We know from previous spousal murder cases that using the word “missing” is a red flag.
Did Stephen really think Tara was merely miffed at him? Did she find Grant’s emails to his ex-girlfriend, excerpts of which have been published and demonstrate that Stephen doesn’t take his marriage vows very seriously? Grant has made accusations that Tara was unfaithful to him, yet carries on this salacious correspondence with a former lover. Is Grant playing by a different set of rules, the hallmark of a narcissistic personality?
Did Grant actually own a gun? If he had the means and opportunity, what was his motive? Emancipation? Money? We have little to go by at this stage. Grant lawyered up rather quickly, but we can’t fault him for that. Yet, he seems callous in interviews and more interested in how he appears to the public (and the press) than in finding his wife. This behavior, and Grant’s over explaining irrelevant details reminds us too well of Scott Peterson.
He is being advised not to talk. Not a bad idea. His lawyer insists that the police conduct their questioning in writing through a fax machine. Today, Grant voluntarily surrendered his computers, which may indicate he is bowing to public opinion. Being under this kind of scrutiny would be humiliating, and the buzzards in the media are no doubt hoping for another sensational murder trial.
However, without a corpus delecti, Grant skates. If he did it, that is. Stay tuned.
Comments
In one of the interviews that I watched him doing, he stated that he watched the car back out of the driveway. Just wondering how long is the driveway. (heh)
Posted by: moi | February 23, 2007 08:30 PM
There was a case here years ago where a woman disappeared on Valentine's Day. The police are convinced that her husband (a university professor) killed her but they had no evidence and no body. She had a boyfriend who is the one who reported her missing. Her husband nonchalantly said that he assumed she had run off with him. That is a cold case that will never be solved because they can't prove anything.
Posted by: Barbara | February 23, 2007 08:33 PM
I also read that there was no record of any phone calls from her cell phone or the home phone during the time he says he overheard her telling somone to meet her at the end of the driveway.
Posted by: CountryGal | February 23, 2007 08:33 PM
Lisa's transcript for the latest news story in Detroit:
Handed over two computers.
More time passes, higher the likelihood of foul play. Stephen’s actions suspect, inconsistent.
Searching Stoney Creek Park in Macomb County tomorrow and area surrounding area of home.. Stephen says he runs there, mountain bikes there but not a place Tara goes since the kids were born.
Horseback, ATVs, on foot, rangers law enforcement FBI
Stephen NOT invited, other family members will participate or be present.
Getting many tips on sightings.
Game show contestant on Wheel of Fortune was one. (WTH?)
Posted by: loretta | February 23, 2007 08:34 PM
I have a question for the next press conference. Do we know if she allegedly left with her luggage and personal belongings? Having just arrived that evening, she probably hadn't unpacked. Do the have her cell foam or just the records?
He is verse than stinky cheese.
Posted by: moi | February 23, 2007 08:35 PM
One of his prior brushes with the law was a carrying a concealed weapon, which was reduced to it not being registered. It was related to a traffic violation, so he did own a gun at one point.
Posted by: Lisa | February 23, 2007 08:35 PM
Grant's NOT invited to the searches? Sound familiar? Yikes.
Posted by: loretta | February 23, 2007 08:36 PM
I think she would contact her mother if she was still alive and wanted to stay "missing" - I can't see her making her mom or her kids think she was dead. She would have sent her some kind of message by now, through an anonymous source or something.
Posted by: loretta | February 23, 2007 08:36 PM
According to the "media" There was no record of a land line or a cell phone call being made in that time period. I believe this was a police statement.
Posted by: Anonymous | February 23, 2007 08:37 PM
Stony Creek is huge, couple thousand acres with golf, a lake, hiking, bike paths, nature center. But it's 'not in a rural remote area at all and it's pretty busy all the time.
Posted by: Lisa | February 23, 2007 08:38 PM
Here's the link for that:
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/11073719/detail.html
Another new development this week was that Grant's husband, Stephen Grant, told police he heard Tara Grant make an unusual phone call the night of her disappearance.
Stephen Grant said she told whomever she was speaking to on the phone, "I'll meet you at the end of the driveway."
Hackel said there is no indication any phone calls were made that night. Records from her personal cell phone and the house phone do not indicate a call was made during that time.
Posted by: CountryGal | February 23, 2007 08:40 PM
Lisa, bring your links over here!
Posted by: moi | February 23, 2007 08:42 PM
Here's a link to videos I've been watching today.
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/11073719/detail.html
Speaking of Wilbank's, there is one that he does (see the one of SG in its entirety) that is a must see.
Posted by: Doe Eyes | February 23, 2007 08:42 PM
Sorry that Anony=moi. I cannot seem to make this blob retain my personal info. I am not accustomed to that!
Posted by: moi | February 23, 2007 08:47 PM
Heh. You guys are too fast for me. Refresh, refresh, refresh.
Posted by: Doe Eyes | February 23, 2007 08:47 PM
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/11073719/detail.html
Moi, there is a slideshow on this link with a picture of the house.
Posted by: Lisa | February 23, 2007 08:48 PM
Doe I owe you a drink!
Moi, hit preview, then type the comment and it will fill in your info.
Posted by: Lisa | February 23, 2007 08:50 PM
Lisa, I think we both owe CG a drink!
What was the rule at SB?
1 C&P infraction =2 drinks
2 C&P infractions= 3 drinks?
Posted by: Doe Eyes | February 23, 2007 08:53 PM
Not such a long driveway. I want to know precisely where the alleged car was parked. In the driveway or a drive-by at the end of the driveway. Perhaps he heard the alleged car and allegedly looked out the window as it was backing out. I doubt if he could have heard it ( I am not a great judge of this as I am deaf as a post). Could any of you hear a car motor at the "end" of that driveway from inside a house with insulation?
Posted by: moi | February 23, 2007 08:57 PM
I dunno. Watching that video that Doe linked was really odd. If he's lying, he's really good at it.
Posted by: loretta | February 23, 2007 08:58 PM
You guys are too quick for me. Let me just say that I think the husband has information that could lead to the conviction of said husband. He sounds like the PRIME SUSPECT to me. (That is a game that William and I play on the computer. We ALWAYS get the bad guy/girl.)
Posted by: Barbara | February 23, 2007 08:59 PM
This guy is bold. Or at least his attorney is. Husband reportedly hired a private investigator (If I heard/read correctly) former eff bee eye guy to search for his missing wife.
I don't think she will be found in the typical place that a dead wife is usually found.
This murder has been planned for a while in my opinion.
Posted by: Monica | February 23, 2007 08:59 PM
Which means he could be a very good liar. A new twist on an old story.
The alternatives: she's missing purposely or that some serial killer got her just don't work for me.
But, if he's responsible, he's a better liar than his predecessors.
Posted by: loretta | February 23, 2007 09:00 PM
He implied it was a Metro Car, which are generally big four dour sedans, Lincolns or Caddies around here, so I doubt you would be able to hear it.
Wonder if they had a dog that would have barked?
Posted by: Lisa | February 23, 2007 09:00 PM
I haven't perhaps watched that one. I watched the 2 that Lisa had linked about the emales and the one walking down the street. He was not glib nor was he convincing. He was just covering is apse. His SIL is not happy with the news of the emales.
Posted by: moi | February 23, 2007 09:01 PM
Yes, that wide-eyed look like Wilbanks is freaking me out.
He may not be a good liar. He just has weird eyes that have no expression and never blink. Hard to tell what he's thinking. That would drive me nuts.
I like a guy with eyelids.
Posted by: loretta | February 23, 2007 09:03 PM
He looked squirrely to me, just a stange demeanor.
I wonder if he's not tranked up and that's why he's not blinking.
Posted by: Lisa | February 23, 2007 09:07 PM
When they find her, they will find her strangled.
I don't believe for a nano sec that she walked away.
My gut tells me this.
I'm completely okay with being wrong on occasion. I don't think I am about this case.
Posted by: Monica | February 23, 2007 09:09 PM
He has had more practice than SP. After all they have two children and he has a "man's" needs. That would be a wife who supports him yet does not supply his sexshill appetite. As his emales convey, he is bjorny-boy. I want to see your nekkid bodyetc. Urp-slop-bring-the-mop. He does not have the chin or the character to have and sustain a long-distance relationship with the breadwinner. Give moi a break. There are some men who have less character than others. I think he had been pushed to his limit. Dealing with 2 young children and being hog-tied to fidelity is not his cup of tea, as twere. This is my baser instinct speaking. He is squirming. He is articulate and obviously accustomed to politically correct behaviour and apparently believes his own press releases. One of the articles stated that he had worked in a political arena and was fascinated by that venue. My lable or libel is that he is a definite member of the sue-ahh-vay "N" club. This is not an elite organization. It is a criminally non-functional organization. This case is taking a few new turns every day.
Posted by: moi | February 23, 2007 09:16 PM
I don't think this is going to turn out to be a Deborah Iverson sort of case Monica.
The whole fact that he waited five days to report her missing rings my bell the most.
Posted by: Lisa | February 23, 2007 09:19 PM
Amen, Moi.
I completely believe and following your train of thought.
Her body is lying in a place where investigators need to think outside the box.
Her husband THINKS he is so smart.
Sheriff's department. Mark Hackle. Aren't people I'd mess with.
I'm thinking there will be a definitive answer real soon.
Posted by: Monica | February 23, 2007 09:22 PM
I agree Lisa, until you read his explanation of why he waited and even her own mother told him to wait. That causes me to pause.
Posted by: Barbara | February 23, 2007 09:22 PM
Here is my mangy thought. When he disposed of her, he left his babies in the house alone.
He doesn't care about anyone but himself.
The only thing I'm curious about figuring out, is where did he dispose of her.
This case realy isn't that big of a mystery in my eyes.
His lawyer has already started asking the public to let things play out before they judge.
Good grief!
Posted by: Monica | February 23, 2007 09:26 PM
Ho Ho, I haven't even mentioned the 5-day factor as her mother confessed that she told him to wait. Or not, who knows. Any husband of mine, and I have had a few (two of whom were primo "N"'s), would never wait a NY minute to report me missing. They were too dependent on this little moi. That would be emotionally and not financially.
Posted by: moi | February 23, 2007 09:26 PM
Could be denial on the mother's part.
I don't think it's a big mystery either. I think he left the children and headed to Detroit. There are blocks of abandoned houses and acres of vacant lots. Lots of good hiding spots. An easy drive.
Posted by: Lisa | February 23, 2007 09:32 PM
Moi, if my Bob was 6 hours late, I would call the pohleese.
Patterns, friends.
I think (I could be completely wrong) that this is a case of N house husband going strangling successful wife.
It has all the shades.
Posted by: Monica | February 23, 2007 09:33 PM
The Mr. Mom thing is a crock as well. WWJ said the cops were looking for former au pairs the family had. The one they most recently had was pulled by her agency as soon as they found out Tara was missing.
He also worked at his family's machine shop.
I don't think he was wiping cacky bums and making PBNJ while singing Barney.
Posted by: Lisa | February 23, 2007 09:37 PM
I couldn't agree with you more, Lisa.
This murder is all about control.
The murderer is trying to control Mark Hackle, and the investigation.
Scott Peterson? Jason Young? I could go on and on, but I'm guessing I don't have to.
Posted by: Monica | February 23, 2007 09:41 PM
Here's what I don't understand. Just slap me.
She returned home on the 9th, a Friday. She leaves that same night a 11:30 or so in a dark sedan?
SG said in earlier reports that they an "argument" about the fact the she was going to have to leave on a Sunday instead of Monday.
In the 'Wilbanks' interview, he said something different. He said that he called her boss in PR, whom he trusted. He said not to worry about it. She was to be there later on Monday. Time difference?
Posted by: Doe Eyes | February 23, 2007 09:44 PM
Perry Whathisname did the same thing and said her parents told him not to call the police. It took many years and his father turning on him but he's finally where he belongs.
Posted by: CountryGal | February 23, 2007 09:45 PM
Doe, KISS (keep it simple stupid).
Of course you know I'm not calling you stupid.
No one in a committed marital relationship with two young babies doesn't report the other spouse missing for 5 days.
That just doesn't happen unless you are a FREAK.
Bob and I don't have children together. I would report him missing after 6 hours of not being able to communicate with him or get answers from those who do communicate with him outside of me.
It's not rocket science.
Posted by: Monica | February 23, 2007 09:49 PM
The thing about the waiting - he might have known that would be their response, too. He was no stranger to her routine, and knew they wouldn't think it odd that she hadn't contacted him for a couple of days.
He waited just long enough to know they wouldn't contact the police before he did. Then he led them to believe that he had it under control.
In theory, anyway.
He might be slick, but he screwed up somewhere.
Posted by: loretta | February 23, 2007 09:51 PM
Perry March, CG.
What a POS.
Posted by: loretta | February 23, 2007 09:52 PM
Right on, Monica. There are just too many trails to follow here. I am not speaking about the ground search as I think Lisa has it nailed about the environs and available dump spots in mishugganah. As I was marrit to one of those Scripps and saw and ventured into many mishuggannah places including De Troit. This boy did leave his children asleep in the house alone or with au paire (she as he sez on taper of the video) had to leave. What does this mean. I never had an au paire. If I had and this happened, I would actually expect that the agency, reading the news would send her directly bach two cherminny. Krix, girls, agencies are responsible for their young charges. That histoire will be quite telling as he has no character of trust or significant believability
Posted by: moi | February 23, 2007 10:00 PM
There was a statement about the fact that the au paire had been called bach or recalled or taken away from hymn and now his mother is there. No relatives from the wife's family. Well, duh.
Posted by: moi | February 23, 2007 10:26 PM
Perhaps it is necessary to say that the whole situation goes back to another time and place, ot perhaps not. Who will say so...dotz?
Posted by: moi | February 23, 2007 10:36 PM
Shades of JackieP/ ad as usual nauseum/
Posted by: moi | February 23, 2007 10:39 PM
Is ther anything on record fro his mother? Interview, or video, or something?
Posted by: vero | February 23, 2007 11:03 PM
Okey-dokey there is an MIL in residence. Moi only hopes that the children are going to be saved from this situation. As to Lisa, it is hinky-dinky that the mother of the father is in house and the relatives of the mother are not in house. I am extraordinnarillee suspicious in this case.
Sorry about my in-gut suspicions of the hole deal. Stinky-Cheese.
hmmmmmmmm. tomorrow.
Posted by: moi | February 23, 2007 11:03 PM
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070221/METRO/702210384
duh.
Posted by: moi | February 23, 2007 11:22 PM
just another twist. poop
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070223/NEWS05/70223026
Posted by: moi | February 23, 2007 11:26 PM
Nuff sed.
Posted by: Anonymous | February 24, 2007 12:45 AM
I hope the search turns up something today or that by some miracle she is still alive and calls today.
Posted by: Barbara | February 24, 2007 08:54 AM
Mee, too, Barbara.
Posted by: vero | February 24, 2007 09:53 AM
Here's a really good article that tells us who Tara Grant is.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070224/METRO/702240383/1003
Good morning.
Posted by: Doe Eyes | February 24, 2007 09:54 AM
"She was impressed that he was working for then-state Sen. Jack Faxon, D-Farmington Hills, right after graduating from MSU. "It was the excitement of him knowing the area (Lansing)," her mom said. "He wined and dined her."
From Doe's link.
Posted by: Anonymous | February 24, 2007 10:44 AM
Good morning.
Ugggh. The Narcissist's Handbook of Romance strikes again.
Oh yeah, just because he's a cad does not make him a murrrrderer.
Whatever.
Something is seriously wrong with these guys.
Posted by: loretta | February 24, 2007 10:52 AM
write the book.
Posted by: vero | February 24, 2007 11:16 AM
http://www.journalof911studies.com/
Just so you know I am still paying attention. Very interesting site on 9/11 research.
Carry on.
Posted by: loretta | February 24, 2007 12:09 PM
Lots of interesting comments on this one. I didn't like what I saw in the video interview yesterday.
The descrepency with the phone call she supposedly got and the stumbling explanations for those emails made me thing this can't be good.
Posted by: Nadine | February 24, 2007 03:07 PM
"The search got under way early Saturday morning, when 150 police personnel used search dogs, all-terrain vehicles, air-support units and riders on horseback to comb Stoney Creek Metro Park and surrounding areas looking for any evidence of Tara Grant's disappearance.
The search ended around 12:40 p.m., and Macomb County Sheriff Mark Hackel said no evidence was discovered."
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/11073719/detail.html
Posted by: Doe Eyes | February 24, 2007 03:58 PM
Thanks for those links Doe.
Posted by: moi | February 24, 2007 04:03 PM
So nothing from the search today, that wasn't a big surprise.
A weird coincidence. My last ex was at State the same time Stephen was. Ex went to James Madison School of Poli Sci there, wonder if Stephen was at James Madison as well or just a general poli sci major.
Ya'all thought I got sucked into a big black hole last night, didn't you? We had an unexpected but welcome guest last night and guess what we sat and talked about?
Tara.
Posted by: Lisa | February 24, 2007 04:04 PM
You're welcome, Moi!
Posted by: Doe Eyes | February 24, 2007 04:06 PM
Yeah, I wondered what happened to you last night Lisa!
Any new thoughts being tossed around?
Posted by: Doe Eyes | February 24, 2007 04:14 PM
Well, our guest, who is male and an old friend of mine from middle school who ended up married and now divorced from another friend from horse riding days, ANYHOO dot dot dot.
He thinks ole Stephen looked coked to him and agreed that the D would be a perfect dumping ground. It would take a Herculean force to search all the abandonded houses and lots there. It's not unusual at all for bodies to be found that have been there for considerable time.
Stoneybrook is a state funded Metro park. I used to work near one, Huron Meadows, and we have another in our county, Kensington. They are very well patrolled all the time, (I got a tickeht at Kensington for riding my bike with my helmet hanging on my handlebars instead of on my noggin) , access is restricted at night, you need a permit. The campgrounds are patrolled in season and gated during off season. They are also always busy.
Stoneybrook, I think, was the Sheriff's red herring. He knew she wasn't going to be there. He was showing ole Stephen that he knows Tara is dead.
Posted by: Lisa | February 24, 2007 04:21 PM
The best line from Stephen from the Detroit News article:
"They have to look at me -- I understand that," he said. "I'm sure there are a lot of suspects in the case."
Sure Stephen. Like who?
He'll talk to the News but not the cops.
Limberger, Moi. Limberger.
Posted by: Lisa | February 24, 2007 04:25 PM
I'm waiting for him to say, "Make me the villain!"
hahaha
I would laugh.
Posted by: loretta | February 24, 2007 04:31 PM
This sure does have some eerie parallels to the Laci case, doesn't it?
We've got the ex girlfriend he was trying to rekindle, I'm waiting for the hookers or the gambling addiction.
Posted by: Lisa | February 24, 2007 04:40 PM
Didn't he start this latest round of emails right after they (he) got back from the trip to PR for his birthday?
I noticed that they have a timeline on the site I linked before.
"Feb. 12, 2007 -- Tara Grant never boards her flight to Puerto Rico. Stephen Grant says he called her company's offices in Puerto Rico and spoke with the man he suspected was having an affair with his wife."
Is this the same man he was going on about in one of the interviews telling everyone what a nice man he is?
Posted by: Doe Eyes | February 24, 2007 05:20 PM
I wonder if he keeps notes to keep his chit straight?
Posted by: Lisa | February 24, 2007 05:32 PM
That's exactly what I was thinking.
I might have to start a notebook myself!
Posted by: Doe Eyes | February 24, 2007 05:38 PM
Yes, I have to agree, he's starting to stink like Limberger.
Posted by: Nadine | February 24, 2007 06:12 PM
I seems as though he's staying away from the press and cameras today after the search. Maybe his lawyer told him to knock it off? Conflicting reports about what he says to the press and police probably don't sit well with the lawyer.
You'll have to let us know if there is anything on the news tonight, Lisa.
I'm praying they find Tara soon.
Posted by: Doe Eyes | February 24, 2007 06:30 PM
The husband has turned over 2 old computers from their home. However, Tara's lap top is missing and he didn't turn over their current PC.
How is that for cooperation? Not much, I'd say.
Posted by: Monica | February 24, 2007 08:12 PM
FBI profiler's say a big red light of guilt shines on the spouse who does not cooperater in the investigation.
Posted by: moi | February 24, 2007 09:21 PM
Sorry, tired here.
Posted by: moi | February 24, 2007 09:22 PM
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/11073719/detail.html
Stephen Grant said she told whomever she was speaking to on the phone, "I'll meet you at the end of the driveway."
Hackel said there is no indication any phone calls were made that night. Records from her personal cell phone and the house phone do not indicate a call was made during that time.
Posted by: Monica | February 24, 2007 09:38 PM
I'm just repeating the information because it's soooo important.
Why would Stephen lie about that?
Because he's responsible for her disappearance.
There is no other explanation.
I just hope they find her body soon.
Posted by: Monica | February 24, 2007 09:46 PM
Copy that Monica as to "24". If we had those computer geeks from 24 on this case the home pc would be being monitored and the rest would be history. It does not have to be official. It just requires the investigation of his hard-drive to open up this investigation by a party not connected with conventional LE and since FBI is currently involved. This would not surprise moi in the least. Business as usual for the feebees.
Posted by: moi | February 25, 2007 12:12 AM
Nothing new last night or in the paper this morning, just recap.
Posted by: Lisa | February 25, 2007 02:46 PM
Today's Free Press article:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070225/NEWS05/702250625/1001
Posted by: Lisa | February 25, 2007 03:19 PM
Thank you, Lisa!
Posted by: Anonymous | February 25, 2007 03:41 PM
Hello, i'm Tara's cousin, and would like to say a few things. i hope that everyone is praying for her. all of us in her family are doing everything we can so if you have any factual information please let the sheriff know. thanks
Posted by: Nichole | February 25, 2007 08:29 PM
Welcome, Nichole. So far, I doubt we have anything more than what is published and our speculation at this point. Thanks for stopping by and feel free to participate.
I don't see Tara as a living a high-risk lifestyle that would put her in danger, and I don't see her disappearing like that to start a new life, but if you can tell us more about her (and feel comfortable doing that), we would be very interested.
Just as a warning - Stay away from Court TV!
Posted by: loretta | February 25, 2007 08:34 PM
Hi, Nichole.
We are praying for Tara.
Thanks for stopping in.
Posted by: Doe Eyes | February 25, 2007 08:40 PM
Hi, and thanks. I am just trying to get the word out because this is such a shock and not like Tara at all. We are a small close family that never dreamed of something like this happening. as for your concept of Tara, she is a level headed, very loving mother and cousin/neice/daughter/etc. she was the first to have a greatgrandchild in our family, the first one to get married, etc. she came from a very small town with a lot of friends and loving family. she is definately not the type to just vanish without word to her mom or her sister or any of us. we are all still quite shocked. and please know that some of the press trying to peg her as not there for her kids is very wrong. yes, she worked but she also had a very strong bond and love for her children. anyway, thanks again for any news you can give us.
Posted by: Nichole | February 25, 2007 08:41 PM
Hi, Nichole. I live fairly close to your cousin and have been following the news on Tara's disappearance. I sure hope and pray that they find your cousin very soon.
I'm so sorry that your family is going through this difficult time.
Posted by: Monica | February 25, 2007 08:49 PM
Thanks Monica. yes, we are all praying, not sleeping, hopeing, etc. it's not like her to just up and leave no matter what the reason. we were down there last week putting up fliers and trying to get the word out. i just hope something turns up as to what happened and where she is. i always looked up to her growing up so this has come as quite the shock. we all thought everything was ok with everyone in the family and then boom, this happens. you never think it can happen to you but then it does. anyway, thanks for all the prayers, we haven't and never will give up.
Posted by: Nichole | February 25, 2007 08:54 PM
oh, and thanks for the heads up about court tv. it is a bit frustrating to see things that aren't factual regarding all this. thanks.
Posted by: nichole | February 25, 2007 08:57 PM
My prayers are with you Nichole. I hope that it turns out positive.
Posted by: Barbara | February 25, 2007 09:02 PM
i just read the info on the website you gave http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070224/METRO/702240383/1003 i can't believe my cousin gave those pics... look at the hair :) anyway, the article is spot on as to who Tara is although they forgot to mention she was Miss Potato Queen (seriously)anyway, if you have questions, i will try to answer them. :)
Posted by: Nichole | February 25, 2007 09:11 PM
We linked that same article earlier, Nichole!
It gave us a great insight as to who Tara is. What a wonderful family she has and a wonderful woman she is.
Posted by: Doe Eyes | February 25, 2007 09:16 PM
Nichole, I can't imagine what you and your family must be going through. You are all in our prayers.
Posted by: Anonymous | February 25, 2007 09:17 PM
Sorry, the anonymous post at 9:17 was mine.
Posted by: stacey | February 25, 2007 09:18 PM
thank you. also, just so you know, our family is not oblivious about steve's umm how to say this.... just know that we know. :)
Posted by: nichole | February 25, 2007 09:22 PM
sorry, the rest didn't get posted to that last message. i was going to say, but at the moment all we care about is trying to find tara. and please please know how much all of your thoughts and prayers mean. :)
Posted by: nichole | February 25, 2007 09:23 PM
I second the sentiments of those who have posted positive thoughts. I am so sorry your family is having to go through this.
Back in the 80's, I would have really coveted that hair. And I was a grown woman at that time.
Posted by: vero | February 25, 2007 11:19 PM
Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family, Nicole.
Posted by: Lisa | February 25, 2007 11:30 PM
None of us here can even imagine what you and your family are experiencing. The nightmare of a lost member of the family is unending and tragic. The group here are each and every one concerned about justice and resolution. My heart goes out to you and yours. If this happened to my daughter, I truly believe that I would have to be committed to an institution. I hope that facts will continue to unfold. I know that it has become an international quest for the truth. Those added resources are only a more reassuring indication that there will be no stone left unturned. As to her husband, I think that you know our instincts have been alerted. If ours have been, so have the LE instincts. We know what stinks.
Posted by: moi | February 26, 2007 01:13 AM
Vero, I will email you some of my hair!
Posted by: moi | February 26, 2007 01:44 AM
Thanks, Moi. Email is good.
Posted by: vero | February 26, 2007 09:11 AM
http://www.macombdaily.com/stories/022607/loc_20070226001.shtml
Article in today's Macomb Daily paper.
Posted by: Lisa | February 26, 2007 02:00 PM
I don't think they're going to get anything good out of a psychic. No offense to those who do believe in them, but, IMO, there are a lot of frauds out there.
Even those with sterling reputations seem to me to be better at PR than at finding people.
Posted by: vero | February 26, 2007 03:20 PM
Thanks Lisa. I am all in favor of the psychic approach. An interesting twist.
Posted by: moi | February 26, 2007 03:49 PM
Does anyone know if Hackel questioned the Nanny before she left for Germany?
Scott P. mother was in touch w/a psychic, wasn't it Noreen Renier? She said Laci had been hit in the head and dumped in water and she pointed the finger at SP.
Posted by: Anonymous | February 26, 2007 04:42 PM
Jackie P. was upset w/psychic b/c a report of her findings was sent to Modesto LE.
Posted by: Anonymous | February 26, 2007 04:57 PM
http://www.noreenrenier.com/
She is the one I have seen on the forensic files program I believe.
On cnn headline news channel Nancy Grace is going to feature the missing Tara Grant at 8 EST and 5 PST.
Posted by: moi | February 26, 2007 05:06 PM
At last a website:
Posted by: moi | February 26, 2007 05:27 PM
I wonder who set that up. Did you see on there where it says it's not the family or LE that has set it up?
Posted by: vero | February 26, 2007 05:38 PM
Yes, it was posted anonymously. It has quite an extensive list of links and timeline. Curiouser and curioser.
Posted by: moi | February 26, 2007 05:40 PM
It does seem to be comprehensive.
Posted by: vero | February 26, 2007 06:06 PM
Not to make light of the Tara Grant case, every time I hear Nancy Grace's name, I get a visual of "Gracie Jane" from "Boston Legal".
Posted by: Nadine | February 26, 2007 06:36 PM
Thank you for the guestbook url, Moi.
I hope there's a lead soon. This is heartwrenching.
Posted by: Nadine | February 26, 2007 07:07 PM
Yes, Gracie Jane is an obvious over the top parody, and sometimes amazingly (ding) accurate.
Posted by: loretta | February 26, 2007 07:13 PM
Could the National Center For Missing Adults have set that up?
It's very well done, let's hope it brings some tips that help.
Posted by: Lisa | February 26, 2007 08:50 PM
I think they would have said.
Posted by: vero | February 26, 2007 09:16 PM
Does this work?
Posted by: vero | February 27, 2007 09:57 AM
test
Posted by: Barbara | February 27, 2007 10:00 AM
I am trying Barbara's test. Thanks Barbarah!
Posted by: moi | February 27, 2007 12:49 PM
Now I am trying to hold my mouth right. test.
Posted by: moi | February 27, 2007 01:09 PM
http://www.macombdaily.com/stories/022707/loc_20070227001.shtml
Posted by: moi | February 27, 2007 01:30 PM
Thanks for that link, Moi. Toward the end of the article, it mentions counseling services for his daughter being availible through her school when she returns. I wonder if he'll allow it? I think the kids should have some sort of counseling to cope with their Mom's absence.
Posted by: Nadine | February 27, 2007 02:16 PM
OT:
Dow fell more than 500 points today. Did Greenspan's remarks about recession talk down the market (once again) or is it because China took a big hit and they own our debt?
Posted by: CountryGal | February 27, 2007 03:11 PM
I would bet on China. They will take over the world in my humble opinion.
Posted by: moi | February 27, 2007 03:23 PM
Came back a tad. Down 400.
Posted by: CountryGal | February 27, 2007 04:02 PM
Don't sell the Ranch!
Nothing sinister about the big drop today. Just a natural correction.
The big financial gurus have been predicting this for months.
Bad news is that will probably drop even further.
Still over-inflated, as I type..
Posted by: Lesa | February 27, 2007 05:35 PM
Not selling anything Lesa...but it took years to get back to where my IRA was at my 401K level when I left my old company. 7 years and it's still 6K to the red of what it was in 2000.
Posted by: Anonymous | February 27, 2007 06:16 PM
Oops, that was me at 6:16pm.
Posted by: CountryGal | February 27, 2007 06:20 PM
Hey CGal,
I believe you.
I PROMISE you we lost a lot of money today, in the amount of time it took me to type my previous response.
IF it goes "downtown" as it should, we WILL be stock poor (again-sigh) in a few more months.;-)
Posted by: lesa | February 27, 2007 07:23 PM
Check out the statements of the Au Pair who returned home about 15 minutes after Tara "allegedly" got into a waiting car and left. That should take some of the suspicion off Steve, if not completely corroborate his account.
Posted by: Lon | February 27, 2007 09:54 PM
Hi Lon,
I think you did a great job on the site for Tara (if you are the Lon I'm thinking you are). I will check your site to read the Au Pair's statement.
Posted by: Monica | February 27, 2007 10:00 PM
For those of you interested, Local Channel 7 interviewed the Au Pair and she said she returned about 15 minutes after the time that Tara supposedly left. When she walked in the door, Stephen shouted at her from the another room, "Haven't you left yet?!?" As if he thought he was speaking to Tara.
Posted by: Monica | February 27, 2007 11:35 PM
Hi, this is tara's cousin again. just wanted to answer a few of the questions you asked before. yes, the nanny was questioned, the website was developed by someone not affiliated by the family but we are very grateful they did it. there is no evidence tara talked to anyone that night before getting into a car that isn't showing up anywhere, etc. so far no word about where she is. as for the psych, we had a family meeting about it and felt that it was worth looking into. there are some that have shown interesting/accurate things and so we feel it's worth a shot to see if they have any info. anyway, thanks again for thinking of us.
Posted by: nichole | February 28, 2007 01:26 AM
Nichole--just don't fall into the trap of paying a psychic a lot of money.
That has been going on since time began, and people still fall for it. IMO, those who prey upon the fears of desperate people should be shut down.
Posted by: vero | February 28, 2007 07:28 AM
Good morning, everyone.
Thanks for keeping us updated, Nichole.
I sure hope that Stephen is staying in communication with your family and that the children are allowed to be surrounded by all of Tara's loved ones.
It is curious to me that Stephen hired his own investigator. Is the family privvy to all information this man has developed in regards to Tara's disappearance?
Also, I'd like to know if the Au Pair has spoken with anyone in your family outside of Stephen and the Sheriff's dept?
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 08:11 AM
Also, I believe that any psychic worth their salt would be willing to work for free directly with law enforcement. Sheriff Hackle seemed to be open minded about all leads. If the family is open to psychic interpretation, they should asked the sheriff's dept to request one of the better know psychic's to assist them for clues.
I absolutely agree with Vero. Those people will be coming out of the woodwork to prey on your vulnerable family for monitary gain. It's sick, but it's true.
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 08:23 AM
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 08:36 AM
Just to play devil's advocate here, what if Stephen shouted that at the au pair to establish his story, knowing dang well that it wouldn't be Tara?
Posted by: Lisa | February 28, 2007 08:40 AM
Things that don't bode well for Stephen:
1) Admitted argument with Tara upon her return from PR.
2) Back tracking on the phone call to mystery person that there is no record of
3) Not taking a lie detector test
4) Not turning over home computers
5) Not allowing law enforcement into his home to search
6) Flirty emails with former girl friend
Things possibly in his favor:
1) Au pair's statement
2) He hired a private investigator to look for Tara
Things really aren't stacking up in his favor.
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 09:00 AM
Don't forget the scratch on his nose. It may or may not be significant, but should be factored in there.
In my day (before the Flood), au pairs didn't address their employers by their first names. She's awful cute. And young.
Just sayin'
Posted by: vero | February 28, 2007 09:21 AM
Yes, I forgot about that pesky little scratch on the nose.
I also forgot to mention the reported receipt that was found by LE when they first went out to the house to talk with SG. You remember, the one that indicated that a service had been hired to wipe a computer hard drive clean?
I'm guessing that Hackle's team has already spoken with the service and know which hard drive was worked on and what date that happened.
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 09:37 AM
He had his hard drive wiped? I wonder why. Maybe he was going to seel the computer?
Where is Vid when we need him! Barbara, are you around?
Is it normal to have one's hard drive professionally wiped periodically?
Posted by: vero | February 28, 2007 09:57 AM
Okay, attorney Griem, just how many young professional mothers go missing without a trace on a daily basis?!? And, why is it that Tara's family wants the national coverage to assist them in locating her, and Tara's own husband and lawyer don't want assistance from the media to help locate her? Things that make you go, "Hmmmmm." Alfa romeo about NG more or less threatening you to appear, though.
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http://tinyurl.com/37x95g
Griem said he's surprised the case has created such an interest nationally when so many people go missing daily.
"We had the Nancy Grace show call us three times today and they told us that Sheriff Hackel is appearing, that Tara's sister is appearing and, more or less, threatened us to appear," Griem said Monday evening. "We're not going to add to this media feeding frenzy."
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 09:58 AM
If Greim doesn't want the media involved, perhaps he should muzzle his chatty client, who has given "exlusives" to every media outlet in the area.
Posted by: Lisa | February 28, 2007 10:07 AM
This comment really disturbs me. It's as if he knows she's already dead and buried and wants normalcy (without her) back in his life. I understand it for the children, but this comment sounds like it's all about him needing to move on.
"This was the quietest day I've had in a long time," Grant said. "I mean that in a good way. It's been really hectic for the past couple weeks, and I was able to finally get a few things done. I'm trying to make life as normal as possible for my kids. But it's not easy."
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 10:39 AM
Ooh, yeah.
Chilling, Monica.
Posted by: vero | February 28, 2007 11:06 AM
Another point: the au pair is basically hearsay as she did not witness anything that evening and only knows what Stephen or Steven told her. I am not convinced that he is not made of Camembert.
Posted by: moi | February 28, 2007 12:22 PM
I have to disagree moi - what the Au Pair saw and heard are first hand accounts, and not hearsay. It's true that she did not personally see Tara leave in a car, but here first-hand accounts do support, not contradict Stephen's statements.
Posted by: Lon | February 28, 2007 12:57 PM
Or at least what he wanted the au pair to think.
Posted by: Anonymous | February 28, 2007 01:35 PM
The reports say that SG had the older laptops wiped clean to prepare them for his children's use.
I believe those would be the laptops that were turned over to Hackle's office.
I'm thinking that it would be easy enough to determine (after speaking with the computer service) what exactly was done and to what computers.
At least I hope so.
Tara was reportedly getting ready to lay off more than a dozen employees in PR per her company's request.
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 01:42 PM
I also believe the timeline was very narrow between the time Tara got home from the airport, the argument, and the au pair returning from her day out of the house. And quite possibly easy for the Sheriff to verify.
This leads me to ask the following questions.
Did SG leave the house anytime that evening after the au pair returned home? Did the au pair see wounds on his face that night? Which vehicle did he take if he left that night? Where were the children when au pair got home that evening? Was it unusual for them to be in their bedrooms that early when their mommy had just gotten home from PR for the weekend? All questions I'm sure law enforcement would ask the nanny.
Is it possible that he strangled her leaving no blood evidence in the house, but only scratches to his face from a struggle with Tara. Remember, the wounds were only photographed 5 days AFTER she disappeared.
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 01:53 PM
You are right Monica. I can think of many questions to ask SG and au pair.
Posted by: moi | February 28, 2007 01:57 PM
I also want to apologize to Nichole and anyone else in Tara's family who might be reading here.
I'm trying to be as delicate as possible in my posts. I don't want any of you to lose hope for her safe return.
We have discussed numerous cases on this site in the past 4 years and maybe some incite can be gained by asking some tough questions and analysing the media reports.
Please know that I continue to pray that Tara is found safe.
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 02:01 PM
Monica, this is the time-line from Lon W's site. A starting point.
http://www.taralynngrant.com/main/timeline.html
Posted by: moi | February 28, 2007 02:09 PM
Thanks, Moi. I have looked over that timeline a few times. Unfortunately it doesn't say what time her flight arrived in Detroit from PR.
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 02:15 PM
I found Loretta and the fabulous band of Misfits in December 2002 when Laci Peterson disappeared. For me that had great impact as I have daughters her age and also Tara's age. I believe that the national interest in this case began for the same reason. The tragedy of a young mother disappearing raises many red flags here. Also some of the misfit ones live in Michigan and are exposed to the local press. These days, it does not take long to generate the cyber-connection to spread the word of Law Enforcement and the natural concern of the people who are touched by the event either personally or indirectly. I think Lon's establishment of the website was an admirable thing. I only wonder why it was not done sooner by LE or family or friend. A stunning fact to me is that it took 5 days to report this dear mother missing. Inexplicable to me.
Posted by: moi | February 28, 2007 02:28 PM
Mr. Griem pondered why there is so much national interest in this case.
Many people may go missing everyday; some of families of many do not have the resources or access to internet or media. That is unfortunate. I would hope that we are developing a national conscience to be more aware and protective of innocent people who "disappear". Certainly there is more awareness and concern about missing children and mothers.
Posted by: moi | February 28, 2007 02:46 PM
O/T: Moi, I can't post in the kitchen from my office. Big brother isn't looking over my shoulder or anything. I'm just suffering from that glitch that a few others have experienced.
I would love some snail mail of the beautiful talent variety. If you'll shoot me an email (mine is good in the kitchen), I'll send you my addy. Silver plate and thanky!
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 02:57 PM
Just a note - the timeline is basiaclly a copy and paste from the local news station. I have been planning to go over the news reports and update it with more accurate information. The time that Tara arrived at the airport and at home is one of the things I will be looking for, but as far as I know, we don't have firm times on that.
Posted by: Lon | February 28, 2007 03:42 PM
Thanks for the timeline, Lon. Hopefully, more blanks will be able to be filled in.
I want to know especially how much time elasped between Tara's arrival from the airport and when the au pair returned.
Posted by: Lisa | February 28, 2007 04:03 PM
Will catch the 7 p.m. local news for any updates. Would have caught the 6 but had to go Meijering.
Posted by: Lisa | February 28, 2007 06:46 PM
Nothing on the local ABC news.
Here is profiler Pat Brown's take:
http://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.com/2007/02/criminal-profiling-topic-of-day-how-to.html
Posted by: Lisa | February 28, 2007 07:41 PM
Pat Brown took the words right oout of my mouth. Deja-vu all over again.
Posted by: moi | February 28, 2007 07:56 PM
One of the points Pat Brown made was something that I was going to mention earlier.
SG seems to think he is ABOVE the law. Carrying concealed and/or unregistered weapons, driving on suspended licenses, etc.
That is reckless and a thumb your nose at authority type behavior.
I'll be suprised if he's lucky enough to pull this off, and an arrest isn't made in the very near future.
This case seems to be all about control. And, Stephen Grant seems to be the one who craves it. He's more concerned about himself than his beautiful, smart, and very missing missing wife. The mother of his two children.
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 08:13 PM
Nancy Grace is on, supposed to be a Tara segment. Just ANS right now and that coroner with the disturbing lump on his head.
Unbelievable. They are asking how ANS's body is going to be transported. They've waited so long the poor woman could be carried in a tote bag at this point. Shameful.
Posted by: Lisa | February 28, 2007 08:18 PM
Just to play devil's advocate here, what if Stephen shouted that at the au pair to establish his story, knowing dang well that it wouldn't be Tara?
Posted by: Lisa | February 28, 2007 08:40 AM
~~~
We have a winner!
Posted by: CountryGal | February 28, 2007 08:22 PM
Just to clarify - SG called Tara's mom after he learned that Tara didn't show up to work in PR. Her mom felt Steve was overreacting and wanted to try to contact Tara herself before SG did anything else. The point is that - it's not always so unusual and suspicious to wait.
Posted by: Lon | February 28, 2007 08:36 PM
CountryGal, after all that he said about having no conscience, that wouldn't surprise me at all.
Although I wish she would, it's not looking very likely that Tara's going to walk through that door.
I was under the impression that suspicious circumstances would be enough for a search warrant of the property.
With all of SG's conflicting information and odd behavior, it's looking pretty suspicious.
Posted by: Nadine | February 28, 2007 08:39 PM
Calling her mother could also be establishing his story and the mother could just thought oh, they had a fuss, he's overreacting. We don't know how much Tara confided in her mother about her marriage.
Lon, I'm not trying to pick hairs, but we're a tough crowd.
I think I can speak on behalf of all the Misfits that we welcome your imput very much and think your setting up the webside is a very selfless thing.
Posted by: Lisa | February 28, 2007 08:56 PM
No doubt about that, Lon. Setting up your website was a great thing to do.
Posted by: Nadine | February 28, 2007 09:03 PM
Thanks Lisa. I'm used to tough crowds! I know I'm usually in the minority when it comes to things like this - I'll give the benefit of the doubt in most cases, takes a lot to sway me the other way. It's just a differnce of opinion - I don't see his behviiour that far out of the norm as some people do. But the discussion is good - it's one more way to keep Tara's name out there.
Posted by: Lon | February 28, 2007 09:09 PM
Loretta, I think it's time to re-share your copyrighted Handbook for the benefit of those whe have never read it.
Posted by: moi | February 28, 2007 09:14 PM
I agree, Moi.
A refresher for those of us who are familiar.
Posted by: Lisa | February 28, 2007 09:22 PM
Lon, didn't I hear mention somewhere, think it was a print article, that the family had a cabin Up North?
Not necessarily SG and Tara, but the family as a whole?
Posted by: Lisa | February 28, 2007 09:24 PM
Unless of course it's on Harsen's Island.
Sorry lame MI joke, trying to add a little levity.
Posted by: Lisa | February 28, 2007 09:27 PM
Well, actually, I have met someone interested in publishing the NHoR and probalby have to keep it offline for now.
I think there is some potential for it.
Those of you who have followed this for 4 years know that it is a heckuva predictor of behavior.
Posted by: loretta | February 28, 2007 09:40 PM
Lon, you are a very brave man to enter the tough and sharp zone. That is what we are: tough and sharp, as in the wool does not cover our eyes or ears.
Actually, perhaps we should make a list of our credentials beginning with our cumulative years of experience and wisdom on this subject.
We also have remarkable and quick senses of humour when the occasion requires.
Posted by: moi | February 28, 2007 09:40 PM
Everyone who has been married to (some of us multiples) or involved with a narcassist raise your hand?
Oh, Me Me Me! Please pick me. Maybe I can find another one.
Posted by: Lisa | February 28, 2007 09:43 PM
Sometimes you may want to stuff the wooly sock into our mouths! Good luck on that. Or better yet you may want to duct-tape our fingers so that we have to type with our noses when you don't like what we are writing. (humour intended)
Posted by: moi | February 28, 2007 09:47 PM
Lisa, silly moi has two hands in the air so multiply 60 times 2 and that is 120 for me. This is truth or dare gurlz and boyz.
Posted by: moi | February 28, 2007 09:49 PM
Credentials? I'm a thinking person. Are there any other prerequisites I should be aware of? : ) Lisa - are you referring to cabin in the home videos that were just released?
Posted by: Lon | February 28, 2007 09:50 PM
Yes and I thought I read that they were due to go on another family get away Up North, after the one in AZ.
I'm sure that was checked, if she was there. Right?
Posted by: Lisa | February 28, 2007 09:54 PM
But of course, Lon. We need to know your age and if you have had any relationships with anyone who would qualify as a Narsissitic Personality as defined by mythology and by the academic psychological definition.
Posted by: moi | February 28, 2007 09:55 PM
I would assume so, but you never know. Many of the particulars of the investigation haven't been released. I'm planning on compiling a list of questions and sending them to one of the reporters. One of them will be, why hasn't there been a reward established? Perhaps the Washington Group could pony up some cash. Maybe someone out there is sitting on a tip and is waiting for a payday?
Posted by: Lon | February 28, 2007 09:59 PM
Lon, I had an AP reporter contact me. Want his email/phone?
My email here is good.
Posted by: Lisa | February 28, 2007 10:02 PM
Well, Lon. All I can tell you is I welcome your quest for information on the where abouts of Tara. And, thank you for setting up the site for her.
Also, I am open to listen, read, and review any factual information that brings light and knowledge on the subject/mission at hand.
I don't necessarily have to agree with anyone and everyone to like them or respect them. Thinking outside the box is a good thing.
As long as justice is served in the end, I'm a happy camper.
Ummmmm, my ex's picture is above the word narcissist in the dictionary. But, most of you know that by now.
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 10:03 PM
Whoops that would be my blog.
lisa b watson at gmail dot com.
Posted by: Lisa | February 28, 2007 10:06 PM
Borderline - yes; MPD - it was hard to tell if she was just acting, so maybe; Excessively self involved, yes; NPD - not sure.
Lisa - not at the moment, thanks. There's a local guy here who's close to the situation.
Posted by: Lon | February 28, 2007 10:08 PM
A reward leading to infomation is and excellent idea. Especially in this crappy economy.
I sure hope one is offered soon on behalf of Tara.
Maybe Nichole will stop by and let us know if the family is considering this avenue.
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 10:11 PM
Things we don't know (or I don't know):
1)What time did Tara get home Friday night?
2)What time did the au pair come in Friday night?
Posted by: CountryGal | February 28, 2007 10:15 PM
Umm, okay. What's wrong with this picture? Attorney and client refuse to go on Nancy Grace and then turn around and say the following? Double speaking out of both sides of the mouth, anyone?
http://www.wlns.com/Global/story.asp?S=6157939&nav=0RbQ
"Stephen's attorney says more exposure increases the likelihood she'll be found."
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 10:19 PM
Did Stephen have scratches on his face when the au pair came home that night?
Is Stephen talking to Tara's family?
Did Stephen take a lie detector test apart from the Sheriff's department?
Did Stephen leave the house anytime during the evening after the au pair came home?
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 10:22 PM
Because - Nancy would cross examine SG, driving him to suicide, taking the focus off finding Tara? Alicia and Mark were there - that's pretty good exposure!
Posted by: Lon | February 28, 2007 10:22 PM
Touche, Lon. LOL
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 10:23 PM
I was actually talking about the part where his attorney mentioned wanting to avoid the media frenzy though.
He must have changed his mind. Deege, please catch my eye balls. TIA.
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 10:25 PM
Butting in and reading down and not caught up. I read in the print media that SG was trying to "put together a reward" This was supposed to have already happened and hasn't. If one does finally happen I would like to know the originator and the person who instegated it. moi ( as I cannot make my info remembered)
Posted by: Anonymous | February 28, 2007 10:32 PM
yes moi
Posted by: moi | February 28, 2007 10:33 PM
Just imagine the media attention the SG would get if it weren't for ANS.
Yeah, Monica. He changed his mind after holding his finger in the wind.
I think my eyes joined yours.
Posted by: Deege | February 28, 2007 10:38 PM
Raising the hand as to experience with marriage to a narcissist.
My question:
Why did he not call PR after enough time had elapsed for her to have arrived there, if, indeed, she had?
Waiting five days has given any little abrasions and contusions he might have had plenty of time to heal. That scratch on his nose might have been much more significant-looking the day after Tara disappeared.
Posted by: vero | February 28, 2007 10:49 PM
That's one of the more significant things in my mind, Vero.
If the scratches were still there 5 days later to be photographed, what did they look like the day the occured?
My bet is that the au pair saw the scratches the day of the argument.
Could be nothing because you know...
Men cut themselves and bleed all the time.
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 10:52 PM
Because - Nancy would cross examine SG, driving him to suicide, taking the focus off finding Tara? Alicia and Mark were there - that's pretty good exposure!
I think Melinda Duckett was driven to suicide because she was GUILTY as sin in the disappearance of her son. Does the same apply to SG?
Much as I don't like Nancy Grace any more (and I would decline an interview with her if I had anything to hide), she does have a way of cutting to the chase.
Posted by: vero | February 28, 2007 10:54 PM
Why has the au pair gone home so soon? I heard the telephone interview with her. She has gone back to Germany, right? SG is going to need somebody to watch the kids. His mother probably can't stay forever.
Posted by: vero | February 28, 2007 10:57 PM
Jumping in again, perhaps Stephen needs to be invited to that deluxe show in the sky , to give an exclusive interview by a big name, say Diane Sawyer, or some other blonde anchor who is more user friendly than Nancy. Shoot I am a silver blondie. I volunteer. I will give him a national venue. This is without profit to moi or to hymn. Heh.
Posted by: Anonymous | February 28, 2007 10:57 PM
I wondered the same thing, Vero.
My conclusion is that her parents probably requested her to come home immediately until a resolution in the case occurred.
I know I wouldn't want my 19 y/o daughter hanging out in a house with someone who might be responsible for their wife's disappearance.
No Ma'am, no way, no how.
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 10:59 PM
Oh, Moi. You'd charm the truth out of him for sure! Heh
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 11:00 PM
The au pair agency pulled the placement and didn't have another so they sent her home, Vero.
And with that, I am off to noddyland.
Night all.
Posted by: Lisa | February 28, 2007 11:00 PM
shoot, c'est moi as usual. I will not ever say that all anonymous post are mine, you have my email. Save it and ask moi. This is probably the last time my mail will be good on the front page.
Posted by: moi | February 28, 2007 11:01 PM
Nite, Lisa. Me too.
Looking forward to this weekend!
Brain storm with you fine specimens, manana!
Posted by: Monica | February 28, 2007 11:03 PM
test of true email. If it works and you want me, okey dokey. Otherwise meet me in the kitchen. Shall we invite Stevarino into the kitchen? alfalfa
Posted by: moi | February 28, 2007 11:09 PM
Let me think about that a moment.
No.
I don't think I would have been too happy with my 19-year-old daughter being an au pair in a household where the wife was out of the country much of the time, either, but that's just me.
Posted by: vero | February 28, 2007 11:13 PM
http://www.wral.com:80/news/local/blogpost/1218438/
Anyone know who is doing this on CTV?
Posted by: CountryGal | February 28, 2007 11:31 PM
Wow.
I can relate, Amanda.
Posted by: loretta | February 28, 2007 11:48 PM
It wasn't me. It was RPD joking with Gojo. But Gojo was pizzed that RPD outted him as John Goins, his real name, and Gojo complained to AL that RPD was claiming to be her when it was really just a joke. Gojo has left the building.
Posted by: Captain Joe | March 1, 2007 12:00 AM
I do.
A poster called RPD jokingly referred to himself as AL, and another, called gojo, who had a hate on for RPD, C&Pd the post to AL in an email. This same RPD is the one who viewed the autopsy photos and set up a blog on which he described the images.
Gojo claims to be a family friend of the Youngs.
In a nutshell.
Posted by: vero | March 1, 2007 12:02 AM
Hi, mon capitain.
You just can't stay out of trouble, can you?
It's OK. Neither can I.
Posted by: vero | March 1, 2007 12:03 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255605,00.html
One 40-year-old Detroit-area woman with a full-time job and two kids of her own said she feel a personal connection to the story.
"Tara could be any woman — your sister, your friends, yourself," says Lisa Watson, who has written several entries about Grant on her blog, "The Lisa Life: My Life in a Suburban Town."
"She seems like a fairly normal (person). ... It always comes back to, 'Could that be me?"'
You Go Lisa!!
Posted by: loretta | March 1, 2007 08:08 AM
Holy chit! That hit Faux news.
Posted by: Lisa | March 1, 2007 08:30 AM
Fantastic, Lisa!
You go girl.
Good morning.
Posted by: Monica | March 1, 2007 09:02 AM
Wow! Go, Lisa!
This seems to be yet another case where the husband does not realize, has not precesses, and cannot accept the fact that he IS the focus of the investigation, and WILL BE until he is CLEARED.
Tired old numbers, I know, but enough wives have been killed by their husbands to warrant the attention to him.
I can't remember the actual statistics, but any murder is more likely to be done by somebody the victim knows than by a random stranger.
I'm not saying this is what has happened to Tara, but the police have to consider the possibility.
34-year-old women with two kids and responsible jobs can just walk away from their lives, but it doesn't happen that often.
Now, the driver of the sedan could have been a random stranger, or a not-so-random non-stranger, and I'm sure the police are pursuing clues along that track, as well.
Steven did lie about the phone call, unless she had another cell phone he wasn't aware of.
The fact remains that the spouse is the most likely suspect when foul play is suspected, and he needs to cooperate and get over any feelings he has of being persecuted.
The cops don't want to nail him if he's not responsible. They want to eliminate him as a suspect.
Posted by: vero | March 1, 2007 09:02 AM
Right, Vero. And, I don't blame Stephen one iota for hiring himself a good attorney. However, much cooperation can happen (with an attorney by his side) to assist law enforcement in locating Tara if Stephen is innocent of causing her disappearance.
Posted by: Monica | March 1, 2007 09:31 AM
Link to the home video Lon mentioned above:
http://www.clickondetroit.com/video/11139082/index.html
Posted by: Lisa | March 1, 2007 09:54 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17388741/
Lisa, you made MSNBC as well.
Tara's story is getting out there.
Posted by: CountryGal | March 1, 2007 01:01 PM
Husband just told me Tara's case will be featured on America's Most Wanted, Saturday evening.
Posted by: Lisa | March 1, 2007 01:24 PM
Off topic, but a very important study on a toxic chemical called Bisphenol A, used in the manufacture of plastic baby bottles and other items.
This chemical is linked to Down Syndrome, among other things.
The article was on my local news homepage, not on a big site like CNN or MSNBC.
Link to news article:
http://cbs13.com/health/local_story_059110633.html
Link to study on Bisphenol A:
http://www.environmentcalifornia.org/uploads/Ve/AQ/VeAQsr6MMu4xA3-2ibnr_g/Toxic-Baby-Bottles.pdf
Posted by: Nadine | March 1, 2007 06:36 PM
Nadine, that is very scary. Especially the part about baby toys, bottles and heating anything in plastic containers. That part is on page 17.
Posted by: moi | March 1, 2007 08:35 PM
Scary is right. It goes on to tell us what to look for on the bottom of our plastic containers to find out which ones are safest to use.
Interesting to note that none are ever safe to heat food in.
Posted by: Nadine | March 1, 2007 08:52 PM
Yep, don't buy anything with #3 in the recycling triangle.
Posted by: moi | March 1, 2007 09:44 PM
I think I'm going to print out that study.
Posted by: Nadine | March 1, 2007 09:50 PM
What? Nothing about the 4 large? : ) Good thing he also didn't have camping equipment and a yahoo map to the ex-girlfriend's house.
Congrats on the blog excerpts Lisa...
Posted by: Lon | March 1, 2007 09:51 PM
I want to hear about the money.
I've not had time to properly catch up with this case this evening.
Posted by: vero | March 1, 2007 10:00 PM
I find myself not wanting to put all my thoughts out there on Tara's case, Lon.
I feel distress for her family.
With that being said, my gut tells me that SG carrying 4K in cash is a very bad omen.
I'm thinking it was to pay someone in Detroit's under belly for services rendered.
That's all I have to say about that.
What's up with this guy, SG, everyone? Authorities can't look at his computer citing attorney client privilege. SG pays said attorney in big CASH instead of check. Maybe we should start investigating the background of SG's attorney along with him. Or maybe just maybe, his attorney is advising a guilty man very well.
Posted by: Monica | March 1, 2007 10:16 PM
I wonder how many pay phones SG has visited wearing gloves, since Tara's disappearance?
Posted by: Monica | March 1, 2007 10:18 PM
During the conference, "Hackel explained Stephen Grant’s criminal past, including careless driving, failure to obtain a gun permit and having a suspended driver's license five times since 2000."
A sterling character he has.
Posted by: moi | March 1, 2007 10:58 PM
Yes, but let's not be too hasty. Scott Peterson had no record of anything.
However, SG is looking a bit anti-social, isn't he?
Posted by: loretta | March 1, 2007 11:03 PM
This is the 4K quote along with soome other salient points Vero:
"On Thursday, Rescue 4 obtained a copy of the police report from the night Tara Grant's husband, Stephen Grant, was pulled over and arrested for a traffic violation. Police said he was pulled over in Mount Clemens for failing to signal, but was arrested because he was driving on a suspended license.
Stephen Grant allegedly told the officer before being asked for identification, "I know why your pulling my over. It's because (of) my wife."
On Feb. 23, Stephen Grant brought two laptop computers to the Macomb County Sheriff's Office for authorities to inspect, sheriff's officials said. The Grant's home computer has yet to be turned over to the police, and Hackel said his department has been unable to obtain a search warrant to enter the home. He said he is working with prosecutors to obtain one and hopes to get one this week.
On Thursday, Rescue 4 obtained a copy of the police report from the night Tara Grant's husband, Stephen Grant, was pulled over and arrested for a traffic violation. Police said he was pulled over in Mount Clemens for failing to signal, but was arrested because he was driving on a suspended license."
Posted by: moi | March 1, 2007 11:07 PM
Sorry, this is the 4K quote:
"According to the police report, two envelopes of money were discovered by officers with a total of $4,000 inside. Stephen Grant said one envelope was money to pay his attorney, and the other held his cashed paycheck."
"hmmmm." I say.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 1, 2007 11:10 PM
In this day and age, who cashes a paycheck and carries all that money around in envelopes?
I am finding this husband less and less sympathetic.
Posted by: vero | March 1, 2007 11:43 PM
I really wish I knew something about setting up an account to establish a reward fund for information leading to Tara.
I'm very upset that this hasn't occured as of yet.
If I knew how, I would. I just don't currently have time during my business hours to research it. I don't even know if it's welcome.
Posted by: Monica | March 2, 2007 12:17 AM
Carole Sund/Carrington Memorial Foundation people may be a resource and I know that Sharon Roch established a foundation in Laci's name and I don't remember the name of it.
Posted by: moi | March 2, 2007 12:21 AM
Rocha
Posted by: moi | March 2, 2007 12:21 AM
The Laci and Conner Search and Rescue Fund was founded by Sharon Rocha, ...
Posted by: moi | March 2, 2007 12:22 AM
http://www.carolesundfoundation.com/
In that light the Carole Sund/Carrington Memorial Reward Foundation was founded to help families without economic means to offer rewards for information in order to help law enforcement officials locate missing loved ones. >>
Posted by: moi | March 2, 2007 02:59 AM
I cash a check for household expenses for the month, as I use only cash, so that might not be too unusual, but you'd have to know their usual habits.
Wouldn't you most likely pay a laywer with a check, though?
Posted by: Abby | March 2, 2007 12:03 PM
O/T-Astronaut won't face attempted murder charge
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17420491/
Posted by: Doe Eyes | March 2, 2007 01:34 PM
I hope she is on medication and having serious psychiatric treatment. Very sad.
Posted by: moi | March 2, 2007 01:54 PM
Abby, he (SG) said in a report I read earlier today, that he thought his lawyer would require cash but found out that he did accept checks after he carried the cash to a meeting with his lawyer. He took the money out of a safe in his home. The other envelope was from cashing his pay check.
I'll see if I can find the link.
Posted by: Monica | March 2, 2007 02:18 PM
I just wish someone would find her, then at least the investigation can progress.
Posted by: Nadine | March 2, 2007 02:42 PM
I don't believe that I have ever met a lawyer who didn't take checks.
Posted by: moi | March 2, 2007 02:58 PM
I haven't, Moi. And, I've payed my share of them through the years.
Posted by: Monica | March 2, 2007 03:06 PM
Monica did you check the reward link above?
Posted by: moi | March 2, 2007 03:18 PM
I haven't yet, Moi. Busy, busy. I will later on this evening when I get a chance to sit back and read it and try and grasp it.
In the mean time, I sure hope someone in Tara's family takes a peek at it as well.
Thank you so much for posting it.
Posted by: Monica | March 2, 2007 03:55 PM
Tara's house finally searched.
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/11158608/detail.html
Posted by: Monica | March 2, 2007 08:08 PM
I can't wait to see the probable cause in those search warrants.
Thanks, Monica.
I'd be willing to bet they took the hard drive out of the computer. I just hope he didn't wipe it clean several days ago.
Posted by: Doe Eyes | March 2, 2007 08:17 PM
A little more detailed report.
Posted by: Monica | March 2, 2007 08:29 PM
A little more commentary from attorney Griem about the search.
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070302/NEWS04/70302036/0/NEWS07
Posted by: Monica | March 2, 2007 08:31 PM
Maybe CG will sponsor a Probable Cause drinking game. After all, it is the week-end.
Posted by: moi | March 2, 2007 08:35 PM
There ya go!
Posted by: Doe Eyes | March 2, 2007 08:39 PM
Oops!
Where's CG when we need her?
Posted by: Doe Eyes | March 2, 2007 08:40 PM
Wow, Monica, the peat moss has hit the fan.
The Sheriff's office announced they will hold a press conference tonight and declined to talk about the search or on-going hunt for the 34-year-old international business executive and mother of two small children.
Posted by: DennyCrane | March 2, 2007 08:41 PM
That man in Michigan had better get his story straight.
I challenge him to an interview!
Posted by: Gracie Jane | March 2, 2007 08:53 PM
Let me see, SG spared no time in hiring a lawyer for himself. He does not volunteer his hard drive. He has done nothing nor has anyone else about establishing a reward fund for information leading to the return of his missing wife. Stroking my beard and puffing on my cigar.
Posted by: DennyCrane | March 2, 2007 08:54 PM
His only conversations with LE have been faxed statements reading "trix are for kids" and "gotta have my cocoa puffs".
Posted by: DennyCrane | March 2, 2007 08:56 PM
Who will be first chair? I need some help connecting the dotz.
Posted by: DennyCrane | March 2, 2007 09:01 PM
If SG's so "well off", why doesn't he cough up a reward? Shuffle those envelopes!
Posted by: Gracie Jane | March 2, 2007 09:03 PM
Hey, hey, hey!
You guys decided to show up here and not tell me first?
Where's Alan.
Yep, that 4k could go into the reward fund.
Posted by: Shirley Schmidt | March 2, 2007 09:05 PM
Schmidt happens. Just what I didn't need was you making another power play while I am trying to sort out my gray cells. Cocoa puffs to you. Grrrrrrrrrr.
Posted by: DennyCrane | March 2, 2007 09:09 PM
Hey, it's all in the details, DC.
Posted by: Shirley Schmidt | March 2, 2007 09:12 PM
Let's hope Denny's forgotten where he hid the ammo.
Posted by: Gracie Jane | March 2, 2007 09:16 PM
What ammo?
Posted by: DennyCrane | March 2, 2007 09:17 PM
We don't need him blasting away at any unsuspecting kneecaps.
Posted by: Gracie Jane | March 2, 2007 09:17 PM
Where's Alan?
Posted by: DennyCrane | March 2, 2007 09:17 PM
For that matter, where is everybody else? Is this an administrative meeting?
Posted by: DennyCrane | March 2, 2007 09:19 PM
Alan's probably in therapy talking about those Gawd awful night terrors of his.
Posted by: Gracie Jane | March 2, 2007 09:20 PM
Do I know you?
Posted by: DennyCrane | March 2, 2007 09:20 PM
For Pete's sake, Denny, we had an er, "administrative meeting" in the broom closet last season.
Talk about your Mad Cow!
Posted by: Gracie Jane | March 2, 2007 09:22 PM
I should be flattered that you are suddenly comparing me to a broom handle.
Posted by: DennyCrane | March 2, 2007 09:28 PM
Well, just like every rose has it thorns, so does every broomstick have its splinters.
Posted by: Gracie Jane | March 2, 2007 09:37 PM
Where is my Glenfiddich? I think I will go out on the balcony to muse and peruse the city and smoke my cigar. Thinking of absent friends and reliving my past glory. DENNY CRANE
Posted by: DennyCrane | March 2, 2007 09:44 PM
You can't go out to the balcony without me. It's tradition, hold on!
Posted by: Alan Shore | March 2, 2007 09:53 PM
What?! Are being maudling? Not on MY account. DennyCrane
Posted by: DennyCrane | March 2, 2007 10:06 PM
Danny, I've always wondered what brand of Scotch we drink.
I love it and I want to give some to Shirley.
Scotch that is.
Posted by: Alan Shore | March 2, 2007 10:28 PM
A little more info.
http://www.dailypress.net/stories/articles.asp?articleID=8570
Posted by: Monica | March 2, 2007 10:30 PM
After the comic relief: as of 10 PM EST
From the www.taralynngrant.com website:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++ "Search of Grants' Washington Twp. Home Continues - 10:00 pm EST
The Macomb County Sheriff is now conducting a search of the house. Stephen Grant is not under arrest, and the exact details of the search warrant are unknown.
7:35 Press conference, Sheriff Hackel - did not provide details of the search warrant, but said that probable cause existed and that to obtain a warrant, there must be some evidence that a crime has been committed.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
In a following interview on Channel 4, Attorney David Griem states, "I do not believe there is probable cause for a search..."
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
10:00 pm: We just learned from Fox 2 News, that the warrant also included Stephen Grant's Vehicles and the family owned machine shop where he is employed. David Griem also stated he has not yet received a copy of the warrant. +++
***************************
Posted by: moi | March 2, 2007 10:36 PM
Perhaps, since Mr. Griem, ESQ. does not answer phone calls, he missed the notification or maybe, just maybe warrants can't be served over fax machines. (duh)
Two losers, lawyer and client and Mr. Lawyer ESQ. is not capable of handling this situation. He is like a backwater geragross wannabbee. Into the swamps with the both of them. Or perhaps that should be cranberry bogs. They are both scrambling around trying to excuse themselves from involvement in the FACT that there is a mother, a daughter, a sister and a wife who has been missing for three weeks.
I am about to run out of patience regarding those two. I apologize if I am offending any members of the family on either side of it. I will gladly await any positive outcome. It makes one want to pull off to the side of the cyber-highway and puke.
Why has there not been any outrage? Why has there not been any result from the supposed private (fbi-emeritus) investigator supposedly hired by SG? I mean why bother when there are already real time FBI agents on top of it? I suppose I should just repose for now.
Posted by: moi | March 2, 2007 10:53 PM
Alan, dear boy, glenfiddich is not "scotch", OUCH. It comes in single malt and double malt Whiskey. All these years I truly believed that you appreciated our balcony bonding time. Maybe I was wrong. Nobody messes with SG. I am first chair on that one.
Posted by: DennyCrane | March 2, 2007 11:17 PM
All excellent points, Moi. One has to wonder if SG has any emotions at all. I've seen more angst over a stolen car.
Imagine how your wife suddenly being gone under suspicious circumstances would (and should) affect a normal person, and then look to SG's lack of emotion.
Surely he could make an effort and muster up a smidgen of concern.
Posted by: Nadine | March 2, 2007 11:24 PM
Sorry, Denny. All I know is how smooth the drink is.
The time we share at the end of each episode - err -work day, the topic is of successes had, differences made, and women overcome.
All I could think of for two friends sharing that moment that only two friends of our depth could share was of fine Scotch.
Cheers my friend. The drink is second to my appreciation of our friendship. Can I have Shirley now?????????? HA!
Posted by: Alan Shore | March 2, 2007 11:36 PM
Oh, my dear Nadine, did we ever witness a smidgen of emotion from SP? Non, and nor did we expect it. The truth will out and I am saddened to say, the jig is up, and the cat is out of the bag, the open box of Pandora is about to hit the proverbial oscillator.
What a tragedy and why can these Narcissitic men not understand how transparent they are. I hope and pray that I am proved wrong.
Posted by: moi | March 2, 2007 11:39 PM
Moi, I'd like nothing more than to find we're all wrong.
I'd love to hear that Tara's been on a vacation somewhere sorting out what she wants to do.
Posted by: Nadine | March 2, 2007 11:51 PM
Alan, you bahtard of the first international law kind. Would that be Shirley Schmidtz ot Shirley-Q-Likker? You sloppy drunk and don't forget how I have raised you to the elevation that you have a weak handhold upon it. Give me another fiddich and put your cigar in your ear.DENNYCRANE
Posted by: DennyCrane | March 2, 2007 11:57 PM
I am flying solo on this one. DENNYCRANEDENNYCRANEDENNYCRANE
Posted by: DennyCrane | March 3, 2007 12:29 AM
This is a previous post on the blog of www.taragrant.com from the webmaster dated February 28 in response to a question about having a reward:
I would assume so, but you never know. Many of the particulars of the investigation haven't been released. I'm planning on compiling a list of questions and sending them to one of the reporters. One of them will be, why hasn't there been a reward established? Perhaps the Washington Group could pony up some cash. Maybe someone out there is sitting on a tip and is waiting for a payday?
Posted by: Lon | February 28, 2007 09:59 PM
Posted by: Anonymous | March 3, 2007 01:45 AM
Or maybe there is some husband sitting on his cash and not caring about the erstwhile wife and mother of his children. I am truly sorry to be rude and cruel and without regard to the "husband".
Too little, too late, we have many of us been there. It is too recognizable to be comfortable to hear or read or know. Some one needs to speak up about the reward.
Posted by: moi | March 3, 2007 01:59 AM
BREAKING NEWS
Police Believe They Found Missing Mom Torso In Garage
Macomb County Sheriff Mark Hackel says police believe they found Tara Grant's
torso in garage of the Grant home.
MORE DETAILS: www.clickondetroit.com/tu/5n48FwCyO.html
Posted by: Monica | March 3, 2007 09:42 AM
Oh no! OMG. Have they put up a link yet?
Posted by: CountryGal | March 3, 2007 10:03 AM
Sorry Monica, I was so shocked I didn't even see the link.
Posted by: CountryGal | March 3, 2007 10:04 AM
That's okay CG, I'm in a state of shock, too.
I can't even imagine what that garage must have smelled like.
Stephen Grant's on the run. They haven't spoken with him since 5:30 this morning.
Posted by: Monica | March 3, 2007 10:07 AM
Oh my gosh. I'm speechless.
"In a press conference Saturday, police said they are looking for Stephen Grant and said, "He is their No. 1 and only suspect in the case."
"They have not seen him and are not aware of his location. The last contact they have had with him was 5:30 a.m. Saturday. Police were told he was in a white full-size pick-up truck.
Hackel said he is working with the prosecutor to bring murder charges against him."
Posted by: Doe Eyes | March 3, 2007 10:07 AM
I am so very sorry! What a shock to get up to! Ever since I heard about this case, I have been hoping that she would just walk up from somewhere. I hate to have equated her to the runaway bride, but anything would be preferable to this.
Nichole...if you read this, please accept my sincere condolences.
I hope they find the SOB soon!
Posted by: vero | March 3, 2007 10:09 AM
And the SOB wanted to take part in the search. He won't get far! Why in the world can't these guys just get a divorce? I feel so bad for Tara's children and family.
Posted by: CountryGal | March 3, 2007 10:15 AM
That lawyer is a piece of work! I realize he was talking before the body parts were found, but what is he saying now?
That somebody took the body into the house to frame Steven?
Posted by: vero | March 3, 2007 10:15 AM
Weren't his children and mother in that house all this time?
Posted by: CountryGal | March 3, 2007 10:21 AM
Maybe his mother took the kids to her home. Somebody had GOT to have smelled SOMETHING in that time!
Unless she was in the freezer.
Oh, I am so sorry to have to say that.
I am cussing largely on the inside!
Posted by: Anonymous | March 3, 2007 10:24 AM
The sheriff said they weren't in the home when they showed up yesterday. Who knows where they are now.
I can't get some of the videos to work. The comments from the lawyer yesterday is one of them.
Posted by: Doe Eyes | March 3, 2007 10:24 AM
I hope they edit tonight's AMW to help with the APB if he isn't in custody by tonight.
Posted by: CountryGal | March 3, 2007 10:32 AM
No kidding.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 3, 2007 10:34 AM
Stephen Grant's lawyer, David Griem, told WDIV-TV in Detroit on Saturday that he had spoken with his client during the night and was concerned for his well-being.
(snip)
The Grants' two children, a 6-year-old girl and a 4-year-old boy, were staying with relatives on Friday.
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/16827681.htm
Posted by: CountryGal | March 3, 2007 10:36 AM
"Grant communicated with an unknown person early Saturday morning, but has not responded to police phone calls.
Grant's attorney, David Griem, has expressed deep concern over the well-being of his client and has asked him to surrender immediately."
http://www.wxyz.com/wxyz/nw_local_news/article/0,2132,WXYZ_15924_5392653,00.html
Posted by: Doe Eyes | March 3, 2007 10:38 AM
Hackel said others may face charges for hindering the nearly 3-week investigation into Tara's disappearance.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070303/UPDATE/703030413
It is obvious now that SG's comment to the au pair was just as Lisa said.
Posted by: CountryGal | March 3, 2007 10:39 AM
"But his lawyer David Griem fears Grant has killed himself: “I think he’s gone.”
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070303/NEWS06/703030343/1001/NEWS
Posted by: Doe Eyes | March 3, 2007 10:44 AM
But his lawyer David Griem fears Grant has killed himself: “I think he’s gone.”
“I spoke with him twice early this morning,” Griem said. “And after the second conversation I had no doubt he was going to commit suicide within minutes.”
Griem said Grant turned down repeated pleas to meet. Grant called from a pay phone at a home, Griem said.
“He was increasingly emotionally distraught,’ Griem said. “He had a hard time getting sentences out coherently. He was rambling. I was telling him all the reasons he needed to live – most especially, two main reason: a little 4-year-old and a little 6-year-old.”
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070303/NEWS06/703030343/0/NEWS04
Posted by: CountryGal | March 3, 2007 10:46 AM
Jinx Doe.
Posted by: CountryGal | March 3, 2007 10:47 AM
How is he calling from "a pay phone in a home?"
I wonder if the au pair is a person who has "hindered the investigation."
Pure speculation, of course, but she was there. She was there, also, while Tara was in PR. She was young and cute, and I'm sorry if her use of his first name caused hackles to rise on my neck, but it did.
If I am off base here, I apologize.
Posted by: vero | March 3, 2007 11:04 AM
God bless those two little girls.
Posted by: Barbara | March 3, 2007 11:05 AM
The lawyer is hackalitious, too. Still, blowhard that he may be, I don't think he'd risk being an accessory after the fact.
Posted by: vero | March 3, 2007 11:06 AM
I don't know, Vero.
I just read another article that said his sister picked him up from the home yesterday.
Posted by: Doe Eyes | March 3, 2007 11:09 AM
None of Sheriff Hackel's Finest could keep an eye on the POS while the search was going on?
Um...could they not have assigned one of those multitudinous police cars to FOLLOW him?
Posted by: vero | March 3, 2007 11:11 AM
Or them, as the case may be.
Posted by: vero | March 3, 2007 11:12 AM
"Griem learned of the search when Grant called him from the back of a police car on Friday. Grant later let investigators inside and was picked up by his sister, then went to stay with family members, Griem said Friday."
Posted by: Doe Eyes | March 3, 2007 11:12 AM
Hackel asked residents to look for a 2006 yellow Dodge Dakota that Grant could be driving. The license plate is 9FLR57.
(snip)
Hackel did not address why Grant was not kept under surveillance. He said prosecutors have issued a murder warrant and the next step will be get a judge's signature.
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070303/NEWS04/70303003/1051/SPORTS03
Posted by: CountryGal | March 3, 2007 11:17 AM
I wonder which it is--picked up by his sister (if that's true, where is he and why hasn't she called the cops), or borrowed a neighbour's truck. And, if the first is true, where is the neighbour's truck?
Gaa. I have to go to work, with no internet all day.
Posted by: vero | March 3, 2007 11:18 AM
This has turned out to much more horrible than I ever imagined.
God Bless Tara and her family.
I woke up to this and I'm pretty much speechless.
I can't get most of the videos to load but I've got local news on, suffering through cartoons but there are news breaks.
Posted by: Lisa | March 3, 2007 11:18 AM
OK, that last article said he called the lawyer being suicidal from a HOTEL pay phone. Must have been a typo in the earlier one.
I hope he does save the state the cost of a trial, but I think that's probably smoke and mirrors to give him time to get away.
Posted by: vero | March 3, 2007 11:21 AM
http://www.macombdaily.com/stories/022807/loc_aupair001.shtml
Older story but more details from au pair. Picture of Tara w/au pair.
Posted by: CountryGal | March 3, 2007 11:22 AM
The attorney sounded really shaken this morning but that could be from lack of sleep.
The anchorwoman on Fox 2 in Detroit was on the verge of tears and having a hard time.
Posted by: Lisa | March 3, 2007 11:33 AM
I am still ketching up and have 4 more articles to read.
NG and I have been discussing this case from the beginning, and he was giving SG the benefit of the doubt.
Now, well, it's all over but the shoutin'.
I don't think SG killed himself. My prediction, FWIW.
Narcissists almost never commit suicide. While that is the most selfish act in the world, they are too big of cowards and cannot harm a hair on their pretty little heads.
There are no words for this. I am sick about it.
As far as I'm concerned, give him a blindfold and a cigarette.
Posted by: loretta | March 3, 2007 12:08 PM
Updated Free Press aritcle:
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/myfox/
Posted by: Lisa | March 3, 2007 12:33 PM
"Someone may have helped Stephen Grant kill his wife, police said Saturday."
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070303/UPDATE/703030413
Posted by: Doe Eyes | March 3, 2007 12:46 PM
Let's try that again:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070303/NEWS04/70303003
Posted by: Lisa | March 3, 2007 12:47 PM
Good Grief,
Another young murdered wife.
What's up with saying the torso in the garage may be Tara? How many people have extra torsos in their garages?
And what's up with friends of these murdering husbands being so gullible?
Sure, lend him a truck. Now they can't find him, DOH!
Better not come to my house, the only thing I would lend him would be some bullets, so he could go ahe